***** D method override mechanisms borked ******

[John Reimer]

Regan Heath wrote:
> Why mention Bruno is a student? What difference does it make?
> 
> I don't know a lot about the issues around overriding protection and 
> would be interested to hear why you think Bruno is wrong in his comments 
> because what he has said so far (you've implied he's ignoring some 
> issues, what issues?) makes sense to me.
> 
> I get the impression you're not interested in discussing it, which is 
> fine, can someone else illuminate it for me?
> 
> Regan


Kris actually voiced some of the feelings I've been experiencing about 
Bruno's posts.  It's hard to articulate that kind of "feeling." But for 
the most part, I feel he's accurate in his complaint (although he sounds 
a little exasperated).

Bruno does come across extremely confident, and while "ego" is a strong 
word,  Bruno has given us very little indication that his posts are an 
expression of anything other than that.  So that leaves us thinking one 
of two things: either he really knows what he's talking about and likes 
bombarding the community with statements of absolute truth, despite the 
fact that nobody really knows why he thinks he knows (like maybe many 
long years of research, experience, and study?) ; or he's a 21 year old 
college kid who is quite bright, but has a penchant for talking about 
what's right and wrong about everything as if his is the final word on 
the matter.

Either way, there's no common courtesy or deference to the experience of 
  others, many of whom may have a whole lot more years behind them in 
the computer industry. There's no gentle discussion. There's just 
strident confidence about how things are with little justification for 
it or evidence as to why. This world is full of gray areas and full of 
systems that try to make an organized approach to understanding and 
working in them, but that doesn't make any one system perfect.  As time 
goes on, we find that out.

Regan, It's less about his being a student, which as you say really 
makes no difference, and more about how he voices his opinions with very 
little reason for us to know why his word should be law on matters.  The 
student thing comes up because that's about the only portrait Bruno has 
bothered to paint for us (his signature).  And I'm afraid that portrait 
is rather lacking in any substance.

Regan, you've been in the same spot as Bruno, I think, and perhaps 
empathize with him a little, especially in relation to dealing with Kris 
:).  But you've doggedly persisted through, developed D code, 
contributed to the community in significant ways and thus earned that 
amount of respect you now deserve.  But there were times when people 
were annoyed with your innate ability to start long-winded debates on 
things. Some of your opinions came across the same way.

When youth speak with so such confidence, it tends to come across as 
abrasive, annoying, and egotistical, no matter what the original 
intention may be.

I'm giving Bruno the benefit of the doubt.  He probably just enjoys D, 
this community, and the language related discussions so much, that he 
has trouble holding back.  That's nice... but there are consequences to 
any action lacking self-control. :)

-JJR