why Unix?
Don
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Tue Apr 7 12:41:09 PDT 2009
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Ralf Schneider wrote:
>>> If I were to quickly give the most significant bit of my opinion,
>>> that would be this: Unix is for programmers and Windows is for end
>>> users. As such, even though both ultimately accomplish the task of
>>> putting a computer's resources at your disposal, their foci are
>>> different. You're a programmer. So the notion that there is an
>>> operating system catering to your needs may warrant a closer look.
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> to have at least one different opinion:
>>
>> I'm playing around with Linux since the first year when Linus released
>> the source code. I have hacked the kernel for fun.
>> I'm usix AIX, HP-UX, Red Hat, Solaris and Windows at work as a
>> programmer.
>>
>> And my opinion is: *NIX sucks. Linux was great comapred to DOS and
>> Windows 3.11. But since Windows NT4.0 - Linux (POSIX) just seems
>> outdated. Quality and stability of APIs, general Architecture,
>> documentation, etc.
>>
>> I prefer Windows any time.
>>
>> I hate emacs and vi. The command line tools are OK, but nothing
>> compared to a modern IDE with a stable debugger and analysis tools
>> like "Source Insight". Everything on Unix feels like it was 20 years
>> ago. Nothing seems to change, the old poor tools. No progress, just
>> stagnation. Oh I forgot to mention "Shell scripts!" - UAHHHHH! Ever
>> tried python or ruby?
>> I seriously think Unix fetishists are masochists... Yes I can programm
>> in vi and compile on the command line - if necessary. But I expect
>> more after 20 years of tools development!!!
>>
>> To be fair: I think AIX and HP-UX are really rock solid! But I would
>> never use a server os as a desktop os!
>>
>> What I want from an OS as a progammer: Performance! High responsive
>> GUI. Powerfull professional tools, like a modern IDE. Stable APIs.
>> Good documentation.
>>
>> Windows can deliver.
>>
>> I have never touched OSX. So I don't know.
>>
>> Linux as a desktop is a kindergarten of wannabe design archtiects:
>> Wobbling windows, KDE disaster, permanent changing APIs, slow
>> performance (ever compared Eclipse on Windows and Linux?).
Is Eclipse SLOWER on Linux than Windows? It's notoriously slow on Windows!
>>
>> Linux as a server: Is OK. I mean it's free! I don't expect the same
>> reliability as AIX...
>>
>> - Ralf
>
> Well at least you've got to make up your mind. It's amazing how you
> mention instability in three instances and stagnation in two instances,
> without ever noticing the irony. What's happening?
>
> Andrei
The instability seemed to be about "Linux as a desktop".
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