Is D right for me?
Gour D.
gour at atmarama.net
Tue Oct 5 13:38:11 PDT 2010
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:14:49 -0400
>>>>>> "Jesse" == Jesse Phillips <jessekphillips+D at gmail.com> wrote:
Jesse> Every language you choose will have its issue, and your listed
Jesse> requirements are basically set up so the answer is 'none.' Not
Jesse> one language fulfills every requirement for various reasons.
True.
Jesse> It sounds to me like you want to use Haskel but due to the loss
Jesse> in potential help you are looking at D.
Well, I'm somewhat familiar with Haskell and have zero experience with
D. Not even knowing which build system one use to develop.
Jesse> You will have to support the libraries you use or wait
Jesse> patiently. I am not saying there isn't code to use or people
Jesse> willing/working to support that code. I mean that we are a small
Jesse> community and have had some ruff hills to clime.
Right. I'm ready to help, according to my skills, the projects
providing bindings as I'd do to e.g. help qthaskell project, but with
Haskell one, at least, does not start from the scratch.
Here, I'd choose D, it is not certain that QtD will be revived at any
time in the future.
Jesse> Lots of libraries/tools were written for D1, lots of libraries
Jesse> were written using Tango (D1 only). Even when effort was taken
Jesse> to support D2, the result was a broken library on a future
Jesse> compiler release (it was expected as it was clearly stated, no
Jesse> longer the issue).
Otoh, GHC is quite stable and 7.0 is just around the corner...
Jesse> So even if something claims support for D2 it may require work
Jesse> to bring it up to the latest language specs. But the community
Jesse> is working, things are progressing. And I don't think D will be
Jesse> dieing.
But I already heard rumors about the fork of D2?
Jesse>The more libraries D has, the more users will come and
Jesse> use the language resulting in more libraries. Right now we are
Jesse> missing some vital libraries that everyone wants, but no one
Jesse> wants to make/maintain (usually do to time issues).
I'm following Haskell community for quite some time and I know when
there was no Hackage at all, iow I can understand what it means
'young' community. However, it looks that D1 --> D2 has brought
different winds, altgough it will probably pay off later.
Jesse> In relation to compilers[1] I would not worry about it. By the
Jesse> time your project reaches a stage that must work an more
Jesse> platforms, it is likely that LDC and GDC, and maybe even DMD
Jesse> will be updated for D2 and a multitude of platforms.
Correct. Having choice for compiler is great and makes one peaceful.
Jesse> But for a GUI library, you would probably need to choose one
Jesse> and progress it as you do the project.
This is a big problem for a desktop GUI project making the whole
project very uncertain right from the beginning...
Jesse> I do not wish to discourage you from choosing D, but feel it is
Jesse> always good to know what to expect. And really you could
Jesse> probably start your project, test the components you wish to
Jesse> use. It should be pretty obvious if you find something you
Jesse> couldn't live with.
As I wrote earlier, besides sqlite3 bindings and using existent C-lib
which needs to be bound to D, we need to write lot of native libs for
our app, but it all fails without proper GUI.
Sincerely,
Gour
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