TDD is BS?

[Jesse Phillips]

On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 11:01:05 UTC, Szymon Gatner wrote:
> This is not strictly D related but I am very curious about D's 
> community opinion on the points made by non other than Jim 
> Coplien here:
>
> http://www.tele-task.de/archive/video/flash/16130/
>
> D is the only language (that I am aware of) that has first 
> class unit testing support. What do you think? Do we really 
> just "mentally masturbate"?
>
> Article about the myths of TDD referenced in the talk:
>
> http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1027&context=csse_fac

If you could point to the time where he talks about TDD that 
would be good.

Based on what I've be hearing is his biggest complaint is about 
classes and class hierarchy design. From this I'm pretty sure 
this is where he takes issue with TDD, it doesn't help build good 
class design.

At about 1:09 he goes into talking about roles, specifically, 
write a script then assign out the role to a class to perform 
that role. And in this way, it sounds very much like test driven 
design. Script the action, find/build/train those to fulfill 
those actions, he just left out the testing part.

For my hobby projects I find it very hard to find a use for 
Objects and their hierarchy, I find structures and functions are 
much easier to deal with and test (not that I do the best on 
testing).