Dart and D: features that could be used in D, D->dart for web programming

[Chris]

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 19:54:04 UTC, w0rp wrote:
> On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:37:51 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
> wrote:
>> On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:20:20 UTC, Paulo Pinto 
>> wrote:
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>>> Like it or not, JavaScript is good enough.
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>>
>> Really? I've been stuck for the past week or so trying to put 
>> together a browser based UI using JavaScript + HTML for a work 
>> related project.  It has been a painful experience. In 
>> fairness to JavaScript, I didn't know the language very well 
>> coming in, but still I've found working in this setting rather 
>> frustrating.
>>
>> If the future of applications is really client-server based 
>> applications, where the client is basically a VM (if we 
>> consider the browser a VM of sorts) surely there is room for a 
>> better development model than this HTML + Javascript mongrel.
>
> I developed 99% of the JavaScript part of an application for a 
> year, and I have extensive JavaScript knowledge. After all 
> that, I wrote this. https://w0rp.com/blog/post/javascript-sucks/

@Craig&w0rp

I really do understand yeez. Really. At the moment I'm working 
with JS (again). Nightmare. Disaster. The server side is 
programmed in D, the user (client) side needs JS, ain't no other 
way. I have made a real, real, real, reeeeel effort, I've tried 
to replicate, mimic, emulate, imitate ... (running out of words 
here) every good programming pattern ever invented. But to no 
avail. JS is madness and I seriously don't understand why it has 
survived the way it is, why people just didn't abandon it years 
ago. It is madness. Frustration. Alienation.
    Every time I write something in JS, I feel like a complete 
programming novice, with the only difference that I know exactly 
what I want and how I would do it in any other programming 
language. But not so in JS. It defies reason and common human 
logic. JS degrades programmers. Years of experience are naught, 
you have to beg and cajole, you're at the mercy of a psychopathic 
tyrant.
    Whenever I program in JS I become highly irritable. When I 
program in D, I'm calm, I know what I want, and I know I will get 
it.
    I don't understand why we haven't got over JS yet. The 
Internet is so important and we still have to program things in 
JS. I don't get it. Now don't mention PHP with me ...