Dart and D: features that could be used in D, D->dart for web programming

[Chris]

On Friday, 28 February 2014 at 11:21:51 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 19:54:04 UTC, w0rp wrote:
>> On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:37:51 UTC, Craig 
>> Dillabaugh wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:20:20 UTC, Paulo Pinto 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Like it or not, JavaScript is good enough.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really? I've been stuck for the past week or so trying to put 
>>> together a browser based UI using JavaScript + HTML for a 
>>> work related project.  It has been a painful experience. In 
>>> fairness to JavaScript, I didn't know the language very well 
>>> coming in, but still I've found working in this setting 
>>> rather frustrating.
>>>
>>> If the future of applications is really client-server based 
>>> applications, where the client is basically a VM (if we 
>>> consider the browser a VM of sorts) surely there is room for 
>>> a better development model than this HTML + Javascript 
>>> mongrel.
>>
>> I developed 99% of the JavaScript part of an application for a 
>> year, and I have extensive JavaScript knowledge. After all 
>> that, I wrote this. 
>> https://w0rp.com/blog/post/javascript-sucks/
>
> @Craig&w0rp
>
> I really do understand yeez. Really. At the moment I'm working 
> with JS (again). Nightmare. Disaster. The server side is 
> programmed in D, the user (client) side needs JS, ain't no 
> other way. I have made a real, real, real, reeeeel effort, I've 
> tried to replicate, mimic, emulate, imitate ... (running out of 
> words here) every good programming pattern ever invented. But 
> to no avail. JS is madness and I seriously don't understand why 
> it has survived the way it is, why people just didn't abandon 
> it years ago. It is madness. Frustration. Alienation.
>    Every time I write something in JS, I feel like a complete 
> programming novice, with the only difference that I know 
> exactly what I want and how I would do it in any other 
> programming language. But not so in JS. It defies reason and 
> common human logic. JS degrades programmers. Years of 
> experience are naught, you have to beg and cajole, you're at 
> the mercy of a psychopathic tyrant.
>    Whenever I program in JS I become highly irritable. When I 
> program in D, I'm calm, I know what I want, and I know I will 
> get it.
>    I don't understand why we haven't got over JS yet. The 
> Internet is so important and we still have to program things in 
> JS. I don't get it. Now don't mention PHP with me ...

"There is another option here. Use another programming language."

Thanks for this blog. Whenever I program in JS everything feels 
rather 'undefined'. I would love to see the day when JS becomes 
obsolete.