D mentioned on Rust discussions site

Chris wendlec at tcd.ie
Wed May 20 17:49:49 UTC 2020


On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 at 14:14:05 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:

>> Who wants to use an "ongoing experiment" to write real world 
>> software? That's to invite disaster. And worse than an 
>> "experiment" that might have a sound scientific basis, D keeps 
>> adding stuff at whim because others have it too, like 
>> children. I wonder why D hasn't gained the traction its users 
>> think it should have. Hm. There's a lot more to programming 
>> and PLs than fancy ideas. A certain rigidity and 
>> straight-lacedness is often the result of a lot of (creative) 
>> thinking and experimentation that takes place before a PL 
>> reaches 1.0 - not afterwards.
>
> Programming languages evolve or die. During early stage 
> evolution there is always experimentation. This seems fine – as 
> long as the experiments do not go into a release prior to 
> completion.

Evolve yes. And yes, Java was too conservative for too long until 
Kotlin came along. But there's a difference between a language 
evolving when there's a need to evolve (changes in hardware, 
networking, big data, new platforms or even changes in 
programming culture (you know, the whole lot), and the erratic 
addition of the latest fancy features, i.e. when the language 
becomes a playground for hackers and nerds, forever chaotic and 
immature.

@Mike Parker
Finally, dear Mike Parker, since you have deleted my original 
reply to Russel, may I ask you to delete any answer that quotes 
my answer, else your censorship looks a bit inconsistent. But 
consistency is apparently not held in highly regarded here 
anyway, given your statement from the 19 October 2019:

"I also don't want to be deleting negative posts just because 
they're negative. Then we get into the business of deleting 
replies that quote them, and maybe even losing some actual useful 
signal in all the noise."

Here's the full statement: 
https://forum.dlang.org/post/vqfhwstyyozrsxegquxe@forum.dlang.org

If it wasn't you, Mike, who took down my answer, please remind 
that person of your statement on Forum Moderation.

Anyway, as soon as people have to revert to censorship (it's not 
the first time here either) they have something to hide. 
Greatness speaks for itself.


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