Code That Says Exactly What It Means
jmh530
john.michael.hall at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 03:00:02 UTC 2025
On Wednesday, 29 October 2025 at 21:01:03 UTC, Sergey wrote:
> [snip]
> have different "weight" than from "first time forum poster 3
> days ago" or from forkit/claptrap.
>
> That's why the comparison of the situation with i-strings when
> it was a discussion between Paul, Adam, Steven, Timon and
> Walter has nothing to do with messages that popping up every
> year from the same one single person.
> So the pushback in the current situation is understandable.
>
Are they the same person? I can't keep track. People should just
stick with one ID. If it's just one person making a big deal
about this, then it would change the calculus.
> But do you personally @jmh530 think that this is the main issue
> that core developers need to spend their time (even for
> analysis and consideration)?
I've been pretty clear on this thread that it's not something
that's important to me and that all actual work on something like
this should be pushed to the people who are advocating for it.
Even in an ideal situation, core developers would still have to
spend some time for evaluating the DIP.
>
> I don't think that adding class-private will change anything in
> D popularity and ability to bring attention from wider range of
> developers.
> And D has more important things to fix first.
My point wasn't about class-private specifically. It was about
more about a framework for thinking about changes to the
language. Standing athwart history yelling stop isn't a good
strategy for getting wider adoption.
I wouldn't be the first person to say that when the D leadership
team takes stances that push away effective contributors, then
that has a big impact on the ecosystem.
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