Code That Says Exactly What It Means

[Steven Schveighoffer]

On Thursday, 30 October 2025 at 03:00:02 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
> On Wednesday, 29 October 2025 at 21:01:03 UTC, Sergey wrote:
>> [snip]
>> have different "weight" than from "first time forum poster 3 
>> days ago" or from forkit/claptrap.
>>
>> That's why the comparison of the situation with i-strings when 
>> it was a discussion between Paul, Adam, Steven, Timon and 
>> Walter has nothing to do with messages that popping up every 
>> year from the same one single person.
>> So the pushback in the current situation is understandable.
>>
>
> Are they the same person? I can't keep track. People should 
> just stick with one ID. If it's just one person making a big 
> deal about this, then it would change the calculus.

I think it's unfair to judge all new questions with this lens, 
it's showing a bias that is not really focused on the topic at 
hand.

Yes, there was an individual who posted with multiple account 
names, and this person continually brought up "scopeprivate" or 
"private(this)" or whatever new incarnation of this tired idea 
that D should adopt lest it leave behind the millions of 
developers just waiting to use the language as soon as this gets 
fixed. But I'm not totally convinced this latest handle is the 
same person, I will at least give that benefit of doubt.

But that doesn't mean we have to keep entertaining the idea when 
it's been discussed to death.

Bottom line: D has module private (similar to Java), and this is 
not going to change, no matter how many pleas are posted here.

There has always been only ONE deficiency for this, and that is 
documented unittests being allowed to use private symbols in the 
module. But this is a unittest problem, and not a private problem.

Note that the OPs argument against (non-documented) unittests 
being able to access private data is ironically something I view 
as a necessity -- I often test functions on a type and then 
examine the private details to make sure the state is as I expect 
it.

This is the last time I'll post on this thread. And probably it 
should just be dropped.

-Steve