Free?

Nick Sabalausky a at a.a
Tue Oct 25 13:48:19 PDT 2011


"Jeff Nowakowski" <jeff at dilacero.org> wrote in message 
news:j86k2q$hoj$1 at digitalmars.com...
> On 10/24/2011 05:24 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>
>> So expressing disapproval about something, and the reason for the
>> disapproval, is suddenly "deceitful propaganda and mudslinging"?
>
> Cut the bullshit, Nick. I explained already why "GPL: "Free as in
> Herpes" was flamebait, deceitful, mudslinging propaganda.

And I refute your explanation. That doesn't leave the discussion in a place 
where "flamebait, deceitful, mudslinging propaganda" has become accepted 
fact.

> You just liked it because it was "hilarious flamebait" and because you 
> hate the GPL.
>

Now who's bullshitting? The "flamebait" part was obviously just carried over 
from the message being replied to as a way to "flip it around", so to speak, 
and the key was the "hilarious" part. It's a common thing. Maybe it was too 
subtle. If so, my apologies.

And I *did* state that there were a couple things I did like about the GPL.

>> Ah, I forgot, ever since the 60's nobody's allowed to have a negative
>> option on anything...
>
> Just like when people make bullshit statements about D on Stack
> Overflow, Reddit, or here you get pissed off. Bullshit it bullshit,
> regardless of whether you are for or against something.
>
> There's nothing wrong with expressing a negative opinion, as long as it 
> reasoned and truthful. The original post was neither.

I do believe you have that backwards. Calling the OP "flamebait, deceitful, 
mudslinging propaganda" was neither truthful nor well reasoned. It was 
indeed truthful. And as far as reasoning: The GPL propogates itself through 
what it touches. That's what's considered "viral", period. All these 
rediculous nitpicks about "useful purpose" and "voluntary acts" are 
absolutely no more sensible than saying "No, it's not viral because it's not 
made out of nucleic acids!!" Doesn't matter if you like the GPL or not: Face 
it, the shoe fits.

Hell, I can even make "GPL is viral" arguments based on notion of GPL being 
voluntary. But I've been avoiding that because it's beside the damn point.

As for the comparison with D, if someone makes a negative statement about D 
that *is* truthful, even said in a joking tounge-in-cheek mannar, I do *not* 
get pissed off or up in arms about it. And even when it isn't truthful, I 
usually just simply correct them.




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