Lost a new commercial user this week :(

jack via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Thu Jan 1 03:57:52 PST 2015


+1
you are wright. i think, on the chance of being "Willoughbeed",
that there needs to be a real plan.
It must include window users and a windows usable sdk.

On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 10:48:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
> On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei 
> Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
>>> It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing 
>>> nothing to
>>> contribute towards it, as though the D community is their 
>>> slave labor.
>>
>> If we, the D community, want D to succeed, we must change this 
>> attitude. -- Andrei
>
> I was just going to let this go without answering, as it's 
> ambiguous, but since Dicebot just said something similar to 
> what I'd have said, I'll bite.  What do you mean by this?  That 
> the people asking for stuff then doing nothing have to change 
> their attitude or those in the D community, like Dicebot and 
> me, who point out that their approach is unrealistic should 
> change our attitude?
>
> And regardless of your answer to that question, what do you see 
> as "success" for D and how do you plan to get there, given what 
> you know now?  It's possible that it's already a success for 
> the community, as it works well enough for the thousands using 
> and handful contributing to it, and they do not see your 
> million-user goal as worth putting effort into.
>
> I'll note that I'd like to see D reach a million users, and I'm 
> doing my small part by trying to get it on the gigantic Android 
> install base, but my desire and single new port doesn't mean 
> much since those will not be enough to get D to a million, and 
> I'm not interested in working on Windows tooling or some other 
> issues that might get it there.
>
> Similarly, whatever the definition of success is, whether yours 
> or the community's, it's meaningless without a plan and a push 
> to get there.  I know you can't make people follow your plan, 
> assuming you have one (not a dig, you just may not know how to 
> get to a million yet), but you can still sketch out some 
> specific efforts that you'd like to enable (more user bounties 
> or better ways to get input from commercial users or a 
> much-improved GC, which you have said you'd push for in a 
> reddit comment) or put out a public agenda/roadmap you'd like 
> to see prioritized.
>
> Without some purposeful steps in the direction of your 
> "success," the D community is unlikely to randomly amble along 
> towards where you're hoping, at least not in the next couple 
> decades. ;)


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