Nim programming language finally hit 1.0

[Johannes Pfau]

Am Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:01:49 +0300 schrieb drug:

> 29.09.2019 13:35, Benjiro пишет:
>> On Sunday, 29 September 2019 at 07:43:12 UTC, drug wrote:
>>> Did you ask people here to help you? You are welcome!
>> 
>> Thanks for your help* ( See PS below ) but fixing the download was not
>> that hard. But for a new user that tries this, it can just as well been
>> Chinese.
>> 
>> Its small issues like having a not working download present on the
>> actual official website. It does not matter if its 3th party or not
>> when its posted on the official website.
> But I always download dmd from the official site and have no troubles.
> It works out of box. Your example above is a wrong mix of several ways
> to install dmd.
> 
> 
>> This is why i mentioned before how there are so many frustrations. Its
>> not just the big issues but the constant small issues that are present
>> everywhere.
>> 
>>> You are welcome!
>> 
>> *PS: Next time you write with a exclamation mark, know that this makes
>> your sentence have a totally different meaning and is considered
>> passive aggressive in my region.
> 
> Thank you. Good to know because I'm not native English speaker.
> 
> 
>> Its little things like this that seems to pop up everywhere in this
>> community on a regular base. The fact that there are no rules of
>> conduct or any kind of oversight is probably the main reason why people
>> see D as negative community. Even places like Reddit that are toxic,
>> have some kind of moderation going on because people will be people.
>> 
>> D, you want my suggestion? Invest into a proper forum, set up a RoC and
>> actually moderate topics. And yes, i understand the irony as i am
>> posting this off-topic in the Nim Language thread. :)
>> 
>> This is the first step...
> 
> Yeah, before the D comminity consisted of high professional members who
> can develop the language. Now when less professional people start
> appearing here they don't want to implement the features they want by
> themselves and when they hear 'do it yourself' they start complaining
> the community is toxic. Not at all. I do not blame these people of
> course, they are just users of the language not its developer. But it
> would be nice if they understand the situation.

I think a large part of this shift in the forum discussions is that most 
constructive, language related discussions have moved to slack. This only 
leaves the bike-shedding, criticism and trolling  here, which seems to 
have changed the atmostphere a lot.

A few years ago, the D community was considered very friendly and open and 
I think this is still the case when you look at the D.learn forum. So 
it's not really people who ask questions getting harsh responses, even if 
a question has been asked a hundred times, people still get good and 
friendly answers. It's more people demanding things and criticizing 
unproportionally. This certainly does not justify rude responses, but 
this seems to be the pattern recently.


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Johannes