[OT] What are D's values?
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Thu Oct 7 13:29:34 UTC 2021
On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 23:26:14 UTC, Tejas wrote:
> So apart from the plasticity that others mention, why do you
> feel D is better than the alternatives out there for your field
> of work?
My field is largely dominated by C++. So I'll talk largely about
that "obvious" alternative, that is C++.
I happen to have years of commercial experience in both. I feel
qualified to have strong opinion in this case. So, what
conclusion did I reach afters years of both C++ and D?
First of all:
- They are very different universe; you really do live in a
different universe when full-time. The culture is completely
- D lets me do my best work.
- C++ makes me very unlikely to do my best work.
> Why do you continue to walk the path less travelled when others
> enjoy the advantages of mainstream languages like better
> tooling and greater stability, ie, fewer/no breaking changes
> with each release(and disadvantages like various janky
> workarounds for backwards compatibility, deigns/ideological
> constraints, etc)?
But that description does not characterize mainstream C++. It's
not at all what you describe once in the trenches.
In reality C++ doesn't compare favorably to D in pretty basic
Tools in C++ are not much better for me (cmake vs dub, what would
you really prefer?), build times are usually worse, compilers are
also kinda crashy, STL is a lot less usable than Phobos. Would
you rather read C++ or D all day long? Honestly.
Different, incompatible syntax to do things in different vendors.
You absolutely do more backwards compatibility shenanigans in
C++, if only because the standard advance so quickly, and the
stdlib are made differently - at different stages of the newest
And C++ is also a bad learning investment for anyone, since you
cannot learn C++ as fast as the Standard Comittee makes changes.
D changes a lot less and you can learn it in 3x less time.
Practionners then get the strangest Stockholm syndrom and take
pride in knowing C++ minutiae like if it mattered.
The real question is: why start a green C++ project today instead
of D. Apart from: staffing, specific platforms, or legacy I don't
think the positives outweight the negatives.
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