Quo vadis, D2? Thoughts on the D library ecosystem.

[Caligo]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg at gmx.com>wrote:
>
> It's both. Without any developers, there obviously won't be any code.
> However,
> until someone takes the initiative and sets up a proper place and framework
> for projects to be posted to with the idea that it's an incubator for
> possible
> additions to Phobos or for major 3rd party D projects, then there's no
> place
> for those developers to post their stuff. Right now, such stuff would
> either
> be posted on dsource and be lost in all of the cruft sitting there, or it
> would be posted on someplace like github where there's no real connection
> between any of the projects. A proper incubator site/project would be _the_
> place to go looking for D projects, and it would be properly managed so
> that
> the state of each project was clear and dead/inactive projects weren't in
> the
> way (be it because they're removed or put in an area where such projects go
> and don't get in the way).
>
> So, we need someone to take the initiative to set up a proper incubator
> site/project for D projects, and then we need developers to actually write
> projects/libraries and post them there.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis
>

I'm still not sure what people mean by "incubator".  If you are talking
about dsource2, then no, it's a bad idea.  People should be able to use
whatever site, whatever project management software, and whatever tool they
want for their code.  Besides, a lot of momentum is needed to get something
like RubyForge to work, and D doesn't have that momentum, yet.

As for D and Phobos, I think what you are trying to describe is a place
where interested developers could quickly find out _what_ needs to be done
and _how_ to get involved.  That place should be www.digitalmars.com/d but
it's not; everything from its 80s design style to lack of important
information.  Just compare http://docs.python.org/devguide/ to it.  First
impressions count, and I'm not just talking about looks here.

So, yes, "build it and they will come."
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